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afru
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Feb 6, 2005, 8:36 AM

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Hi All,

As per the promise, I am back with Extended File Manager. (EFM 1.0 beta)

Package : Extended File Manager EFM 1.0 Beta
Plugin url : http://www.afrusoft.com/htmlarea

Overview :
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Extended File Manager is an advanced plugin for HtmlArea 3.0

It works in two different modes.
1). Insert Image Mode and
2). Insert File Link Mode.

In Insert Image Mode, it replaces the basic insert image functionality of HtmlArea with its advanced image manager.

If Insert File Link Mode is enabled, a new icon will be added to the toolbar with advanced file linking capability.

Complete Features :
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* Easy config.inc file that enables individual options for both modes.
* Thumnail View
* List View
* Nice icons for both views
* Create Folders
* Vertical Scrolling
* Allowed extensions to view or upload.
* File Uploads
* Max File upload limit
* Max Upload Folder size (Including all subfolders and files. A must see option.)
* Dynamic display of available free space in the Upload Folder
* Dynamic Thumbnails using Image libraries or browser resize
* Image Editor (Actually done by Wei...a great addon)
* Can be used to insert images along with properties.
* Can be used to insert link to non-image files like pdf or zip.



For a live demo and download, visit http://www.afrusoft.com/htmlarea

Be sure to leave comments and your suggestions.

Finally, my hearty cheers to Wei who started this great addon

My sincere thanks to AG, Nikkoto, Wreimer and Mirical Bernd for their continuous support.

Afru.


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(This post was edited by afru on Feb 10, 2005, 10:42 PM)


Mirical Bernd
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Feb 6, 2005, 10:23 AM

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I would love to integrate the new version in our CMS. Do you have a download-link?

In our CMS I programmed a private message-system with the ability to post attachments. I use the extension of the files to identify them via a database-table in which the common file-types are in. However this is written in PHP. I guess you need Javascript, right?

oh one more thing: in german browsers, the button "browse" is slightly bigger, which let's slip down Refresh and OK under the baseline of the window. Can you make it appear bigger from the beginning? Here it is on my firefox:

http://www.splashpages.de/browse_durchsuchen.jpg
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(This post was edited by Mirical Bernd on Feb 6, 2005, 10:27 AM)


nikotto
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Feb 7, 2005, 2:13 AM

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wow, great
amazing! good work!!

is there anywhere a download-link?

about your 15th feature:
i would suggest if one selects a non-image the EFM inserts code like this
<a href="thefile.pdf">thefile.pdf</a>
so the user can edit the link-text...

if you post a zip-file somewhere i can try implementing this....



but what you have think about too:
can users edit the inserted file like they can edit the image?


and what comes into my mind too: it is not logical if i want to insert a pdf i have to click the image-button in the toolbar!
wouldn't it be possible to have two separate buttons - one for images and one for files?


thanks niko


afru
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Feb 7, 2005, 4:49 AM

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it is not logical if i want to insert a pdf i have to click the image-button in the toolbar! wouldn't it be possible to have two separate buttons - one for images and one for files?


Yes its not logical to have single button and I am in search of good icon for button for File insert.


Anybody who has nice icon for File insert button, please do post it here. Regarding download link, I am still working hard on the project and will soon make it available on sourceforge.

I need some beta testers who can take time to check the version online and tell me about any bugs. And your valuable suggestions are always welcome.

Demo link : http://www.afrusoft.com/htmlarea

Thank you,

Afru.


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(This post was edited by afru on Feb 7, 2005, 6:08 AM)


wreimer
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Feb 7, 2005, 11:42 AM

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Excellent work! but... I already posted a question about this under general discussion, but I noticed the same problem in your demo. In Firefox, no image properties are added when you insert a new image, only when you edit an existing one. Here's a quick test:

1. Make sure you have a flashing cursor
2. Click Insert Image
3. Select an image
4. Type something for Alt
5. Click OK
6. View Source -- no alt (or height/width either)

This problem does not show up in the original Insert Image, nor in IE. I spent about 4 hours trying to solve this one in my own custom image inserter. Anybody have a clue?

By the way, "File Manager" may not be the best name for this, since you can't do all the things implied by the name (e.g. move, delete files). Extended Insert Image would be better.

-Wes


afru
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Feb 7, 2005, 9:38 PM

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In Firefox, no image properties are added when you insert a new image, only when you edit an existing one. Here's a quick test:

Thanks for the bug report. I am looking into it and hope we will solve it soon. If anybody finds any other bugs, please do report.

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"File Manager" may not be the best name for this, since you can't do all the things implied by the name (e.g. move, delete files). Extended Insert Image would be better.



Dear Wes, Here we have two options as per your idea.

One is to rename this plugin to extended insert image as it doesnt have move option. Another is to keep the same name as extended file manager and implement the things implied by the name (e.g. move, delete files).

Which one do you think is better. Obviously "Extended File Manager". By the way, I think Delete option is already implemented. And as per your suggestion, I will definetly implement move option. Hey, how about cut copy paste?

Ok anyhow thanks a lot for your feed back.

You are lot better than those 200 guys who have visited but didnt left any comments so far. Smile

Thank you once again.

Afru.


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(This post was edited by afru on Feb 7, 2005, 9:41 PM)


Mirical Bernd
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Feb 8, 2005, 12:13 AM

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Excellent work! but... I already posted a question about this under general discussion, but I noticed the same problem in your demo. In Firefox, no image properties are added when you insert a new image, only when you edit an existing one.


This is a rather old bug, which only happens, if you insert an image with no text surrounding the image. If you choose i.e. a cursor position directly in front of a text, the image properties are there. Seems that the script thinks: No text here? So why do I need the properties? ;) I had this bug already in RC 1.
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nikotto
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Feb 8, 2005, 12:49 AM

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I would be for File Manager - as you can insert pdf files or zip-files too!

a "rename-file" would be easy to implement i think.
a "move-file" harder but would be nice too...
or this could be the same dialog...

if the EFM has delete, move and upload functions - it defenitely IS a File Manager :D


Mirical Bernd
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Feb 8, 2005, 3:40 AM

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I would vote for a complete distinction between File- and Image-Manager. Here is why:

- Adding images AND files to the same upload folder clutters the whole thing. And you cannot get your staff to distinguish the types. It is already a problem in our staff to get them to upload images to the respective folders as "news" or "specials".
- If you use the same icon for images and files in the editor it is more than strange and not the best usability.

Technically I think it won't be a problem. You still need only one module. Just call it with two variables. One which opens it as an Image Manager. And one which opens it as a file-manager.
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wreimer
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Feb 8, 2005, 7:08 AM

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This is a rather old bug, which only happens, if you insert an image with no text surrounding the image. If you choose i.e. a cursor position directly in front of a text, the image properties are there. Seems that the script thinks: No text here? So why do I need the properties? ;) I had this bug already in RC 1.


Thanks for clarifying the bug. Which leads back to my original question (in the other forum), how does Insert Image actually work -- where does the image object get created, or if it doesn't, how does the HTML get inserted? Why doesn't it work at the end of a text node?


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some text[cursor here]</p>


Attempting to insert an image in the above position results in a Firefox error "img has no properties", but the image gets inserted anyway, just without attributes.


nikotto
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Feb 8, 2005, 7:14 AM

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I would vote for a complete distinction between File- and Image-Manager.

Me too. Two different Buttons in the toolbar that opens one dialog for insert image and one for insert file - although it is of course exactly the same dialog (only filter applied)

But the whole addon should be called "Extended File Manager"!

Additionally the Image-Manager is some kind of a File-Manager too... a image is a file too isn't it :D


wreimer
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Feb 8, 2005, 7:17 AM

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I would vote for a complete distinction between File- and Image-Manager.


This is the way we do it in our CMS (which I am trying to convert to htmlArea). Insert Image and File Manager are two different buttons, and although the file list looks the same in both, in the FM you can do most of the usual FTP stuff, but with Ins. Img you can only select an image and it adds a preview pane with attributes. Afru's Insert Image is nicer in that it has the thumbnails and resizing...


afru
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Feb 8, 2005, 8:31 AM

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Hi all,

Am back again with my new EFM. It is lot more extended implied by its name Smile

Same plugin works for both Insert Image Mode and Insert File Link Mode.

It has two different buttons each with its own functionality.

Both modes can have individual configuration. Complete control on all options.

This enables us to initialize both modes with different Upload directories, different file extensions, different file views and more...

Only thing that is left to do is cut copy paste .... Coming sooon.......Smile

Checkout the updated demo at http://www.afrusoft.com/htmlarea

Regarding the download link, I am working on little documentation for the plugin and will upload it tomorrow. Very tired today... Got to go to sleep now. Meanwhile if you find any bugs please report them here...

Its really very nice to have some body comment on your work. Please do post your comments. It encourages us to share our work together.


My sincere thanks to "nikotto", "Mirical Bernd" and "Wreimer" for their valuable suggestions.


Thanking you,

Afru.


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(This post was edited by afru on Feb 8, 2005, 8:39 AM)


AG
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Feb 8, 2005, 8:35 AM

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Afru you are the man (or woman!). I have been searching these forums for a month to get exactly this. I hope it is easily configurable.

As i was posting this, you said that you are going to put a download link....so i guess i dont need to ask again :-). After i download it, i will test it and of course report any bugs to you...

Thanks again!


(This post was edited by AG on Feb 8, 2005, 8:37 AM)


Mirical Bernd
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Feb 8, 2005, 9:36 AM

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Great work. I am eager to test it on our plattforms :)
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DarrylB
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Feb 8, 2005, 4:27 PM

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This is brilliant. Looks and works great!
Keep up the good work!


chet
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Feb 8, 2005, 11:37 PM

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Nice work :)

I have a new suggestion for the copy, paste ,delete and move function

We made an FMmanager with right mouse click options so you can click on a file and with right click you can select
an option.
Download the manager here and have a look for yourself. It is easy to put it in this package
http://www.webinsta.com/downloads/webinstafm.zip


nikotto
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Feb 9, 2005, 12:16 AM

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much, much thanks!! it is really working great!
good work :D

i'm now waiting - like many others - for the download link :D


mmcw
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Feb 9, 2005, 3:29 AM

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I your example I do add an image using the image manager!
Perfect!

But when trying to use the link manager on this image it will not work!
It will give an javascript error.

Line 162
Row 4
Object or method is not supported (Or something)

Had to translate it from dutch.

I am using IE6


afru
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Feb 9, 2005, 6:31 AM

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I your example I do add an image using the image manager!
Perfect!

But when trying to use the link manager on this image it will not work!
It will give an javascript error.

Line 162
Row 4
Object or method is not supported (Or something)

Had to translate it from dutch.

I am using IE6



Hi,

I have observed this long ago. The same error happens when you insert a image and try to link it using weblink button that is provided with htmlarea 3.0 I think its a bug and should soon be resolved.

Ok regarding Efm release I am working on cut copy paste and got stucked trying to code right click event for cut copy paste. It works fine for ie, but on moz, the event didnt get cancelled and the default context menu of moz is firing up. Here is the code below. Hope somebody will find out the bug.

when a thumbnail file is clicked this happens


Code
 <td onmousedown="return selectImage(event, "file.jpg",100, 200)"> 
<img src="filethumnail.jpg"></td>



and the selectImage function is like below.


Code
 function selectImage(e,filename,width,height) 
{
if(e.button==2)
{
// do right click stuff...
return false;
}
else
{
// select image file stuff...
return false;
}
}



This perfectly works in ie, and both left click and right click are working.

But moz also shows default context menu when right click used. I have fiddled a lot
with onmousedown and onmouseup too. But it didnt worked out.

Remember that there will be lots of <td> elements and we cannot add event listeners to each and every <td> we can send the event object to the selectImage function only through <td onevent="return selectImage(event,.....)"> code.

It will be great If anybody can help it out... :)

Thanking you,

Afru.


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nikotto
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Feb 9, 2005, 8:46 AM

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i would like to help.. but i can't as i don't have the sourcecode :D

imho a copy-cut-paste solution isn't the best because:
- i would never need a copy
- all i maby would like to do is to move a file in a different directory
- one more thing i would like to do is to rename a file (can't be done with copy-cut-paste)
- it might confuse users that a copied image from EFM can't be pasted in their Word. (at least i can't imagine that this will be possible Smile)
- some users might copy a file in Windows Explorer and try to paste it in EFM

just my opinion :D


(This post was edited by nikotto on Feb 9, 2005, 8:48 AM)


afru
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Feb 9, 2005, 9:25 AM

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i would like to help.. but i can't as i don't have the sourcecode :D

imho a copy-cut-paste solution isn't the best because:
- i would never need a copy
- all i maby would like to do is to move a file in a different directory
- one more thing i would like to do is to rename a file (can't be done with copy-cut-paste)
- it might confuse users that a copied image from EFM can't be pasted in their Word. (at least i can't imagine that this will be possible Smile)
- some users might copy a file in Windows Explorer and try to paste it in EFM

just my opinion :D



I think you are right upto some extent. We will never need Copy.

Ok then, I dont think anyone will ever try to copy from EFM and paste it into word because it wont work even in our windows explorer. You cannot copy a file from desktop and place it into word. Smile

Then rename is a very nice feature. And I too think its a must. So we will have cut, paste and rename. What is there with copy ? lets put that too. if anybody wants they can use it. Smile So we shall have cut, copy , paste and rename.

If somebody can help me out with right click stuff, I can complete this very soon....

Regarding the code, I just want to capture right click only on particular table cells or links or images. I want to capture right click mouse events and use them as per my needs and then disable them all.

When you right click, the capturing is working, and we are getting event object to our user define function but It is displaying right context menu of the browser after that.

I know how to add event listener to a particular ID. But what I cant add listeners because we may have hundreds of files and we cannot assign ID to each of them. I want to capture right click event from inside of <td> or <a href> tag or <img> tag where ever I need it and then disable right context menu.

Hope somebody will work out how to use that....

A simple working cross browser example will be fabulous.

Thanking you.

Afru.


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Mirical Bernd
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Feb 9, 2005, 10:43 AM

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Ok then, I dont think anyone will ever try to copy from EFM and paste it into word because it wont work even in our windows explorer. You cannot copy a file from desktop and place it into word. Smile


Silly people do silly things. You haven't worked in support yet, eh? ;) Whatever you think off IS possible. Even if it is the silliest thing there is on this world :D
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nikotto
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Feb 9, 2005, 12:29 PM

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You cannot copy a file from desktop and place it into word. Smile

That is true, i should have said that users might copy the file in EFM in paste it in their Windows Explorer.

If i would have no technical background it would even make sense - clipboard works everywhere i could suppose!

other reasons against copy-cut-paste:
- furthermore who tells the user that EFM has a context-menu?
- bad usability:
1. cut the file
2. move into the folder where you need the file
3. paste the file

instead of a simple move-command:
1. click move-file-button
2. select destination-folder

- where/how do you display that a file has been cut?



My suggestions would be to have a Move-file-icon right of the trashcan that pops up a dialog where you have a selectbox with all avaliable direcotries and a textbox with the filename.
So we would have rename and move in one dialog!




...wahts wrong about that? why does it not work?

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<td onmousedown="return selectImage(event, "file.jpg",100, 200)">  
<img src="filethumnail.jpg"></td>

there you have the filename - and thats everything you need i suppose...


AG
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Feb 9, 2005, 12:55 PM

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Hi Guys,

in my opinion, i think the goal of the EFM should be a simple and easy way to upload images and files. The more options you give, the more confused users get and more cluttered the screen becomes. I think the file manager should be a sweet simple solution to manage files and delete them if neccessary - not create a windows explorer. If they are indeed that advanced to use these sort of features, they will be advanced enough to figure out how to move/rename items around without a move button.

Just my thought - not a lazy solution - but a viewpoint from some of the users i came accross with....

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